Why Are They Young Again When They Come Back Through the Wardrobe
How can it exist,that the kids spent 15 or so years in Narnia,grew up,and then walked dorsum through the wardrobe,became kids once again,and they never acted like adults that they were within.
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When they walked back through the wardrobe they should have acted like adults in childrens bodies,and all of them should have been furious that they were stuck in the regular world for a year because they grew upwards in Narnia it was their hone,its extremely convienent that cs lewis had peter and susan leave Narnia for good in the 2nd book I don't don't empathize.
I got the sense that as you lot stay away from Narnia, information technology fades much like a peculiarly brilliant dream would.
message 3: by Michael (last edited Jul 03, 2013 01:04PM) (new)
Even if that is and so,they grew up and matured,how could they go dorsum to being kids after 15 years
Peter and Susan did human activity like adults. They were both really impatient that they were kids again. And Peter and Susan left Narnia for good because they are grown upwardly enough in the real world that they don't have that child like wonder and Belief anymore. They didn't see Aslan when they should have or believe Lucy when she told them she saw him. And Jeni is correct. It would seem kind of dreamish.
Magic. ;)
It didn't bother me when I first read it, but looking back it does seem really messed upwardly. Even if it seems dreamlike, going through puberty, thinking nearly getting married and ruling a land are also much to just 'forget'.
Other people have wondered almost information technology too - Ursula Vernon (The writer/artist of Digger) has a short story: http://www.redwombatstudio.com/blog/?...
And Seanan McGuire (A.K.A Mira Grant, writer of Feed) mentions it in a verse of Wicked Girls:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?five=1DQx7i...
Michael wrote: "Even if that is and then,they grew up and matured,how could they get back to being kids later on fifteen years"
Hormones, absence of for children.
An illusion. Adults, merely appear adult considering they take big bodies, they are actually big children.
I concur. This is the weak part of the plot. I retrieve that the fact that C.South. Lewis was not married, and had never been really in love, at the fourth dimension that he wrote this book. He found it like shooting fish in a barrel to identify with children, and was just really acquainted with sexual activity in the form of lust. So, in his mind,absenteeism of physical signs of adulthood, hormones etc., puts the Pevensies back into the state of children.
That growing into adulthood comprises more than concrete development does not seem to occur to him.
This is really something I call up the Prince Caspian movie captured better than the books. Peter, in particular, struggles very much with existence a child again and wanting the respect and position that had been his as an adult. I recall they may have taken it a little too far with the arrogance, but at that place are some skilful reflections that proceed with all iv of the Pevensies.
because they were in too much shock
It's almost as if the time hadn't passed. They remembered information technology like a good dream, but like Lucy when she start went to Narnia and came back.
I think too in general, while they were kids, there were a lot more mature than many kids nowadays because of what they had experienced in life - father dying, the war etc...
I concur with the dream theory. If everything around you tells you one thing, you are more likely to adapt to it. When they came out from the wardrobe, they were kids again, and everyone treated them similar kids. I did always think, all the same, that they never lost the poise or thoughtfulness from their time equally royalty, 1 affair I always loved and wanted to emulate almost these characters.
Jeni wrote: "I got the sense that every bit you stay away from Narnia, it fades much like a particularly vivid dream would."
I agree with yous completely, It's similar a magical land that once you're away from it turns into merely a dream type memory.
Regardless it's notwithstanding very hard to believe,even if information technology feels like a dream earth
When they were growing upward in Narnia they forgot nigh their lives in "spare 'oom", so it makes sense that these memories would fade once they'd become kids in England again.
Then again wouldn't it be smashing to abound into adulthood, and then go back and showtime once more, to be kids knowing all the things y'all wish you knew as an adult?
you say the truth beloved :)
F-I-C-T-I-O-N... If you tin accept that the children travel to some other world through a wardrobe, you should exist able to accept the events upon their return.
It never bothered me as a child, I but took it for granted that you could travel dorsum and forth between existence a child and a grown up. At ten, I didn't really sympathise what it actually meant to be a proper grown-upwardly and don't all children play games in which they pretend to be a grown-upwardly (princess, doctor, pirate)?
Shannon wrote: "Information technology never bothered me as a kid, I just took it for granted that you could travel back and forth between beingness a child and a grown up. At x, I didn't actually sympathize what it really meant to be ..."
That'southward very true. Nice observation. :)
MAGIC...duh. its a F-I-C-T-I-O-N volume for children.
A form of magic/ Even spiritual. Kind of similar when y'all are very captivated in a dream you are having as you sleep, and when yous wake up, you remember merely a little fragment of information technology, you lot are somehow affected by all you did and saw in that dream. The flavor sticks with you lot. But as the days get by information technology fades, and today y'all probably couldn't explain to me a dream you lot had a twelvemonth agone, that notwithstanding affected you securely when you had information technology.
Suspension of disbelief.
Michael wrote: "Fifty-fifty if that is so,they grew up and matured,how could they go back to being kids later 15 years"
Fourth dimension in Narnia passes differently than in our universe. Betwixt LWW and Prince Caspian, 1300 years passed in Narnia. So the kids going in the wardrobe and coming back out may have been a few seconds or a infinitesimal in our earth.
A little off topic, simply something I never understood was how coming back to the real world was never really a shocker to the children. They grew up, matured, and fifty-fifty got married in Narnia, merely all of a sudden leaving all that behind for 1300 Narnian years doesn't seem to bother them (at to the lowest degree, in the books). That's what I see unless I missed something.
S.A. wrote: "Michael wrote: "Even if that is so,they grew up and matured,how could they go back to beingness kids afterwards xv years"
Time in Narnia passes differently than in our universe. Between LWW and Prince Cas..."
I recall you are restating the original question...
Michael wrote: "Regardless information technology's still very hard to believe,even if it feels like a dream earth"
How? How is information technology hard to believe!? Do your very bright dreams even so haunt you and effect your whole life? Tin can you not move on from them? Considering that is what information technology would exist to them. A very bright dream that fades as fourth dimension goes on. If you lot dreamed you were older would you notwithstanding experience older when you woke up?
Sara wrote: "Michael wrote: "Regardless it'southward still very hard to believe,even if it feels like a dream world"
How? How is it difficult to believe!? Exercise your very vivid dreams still haunt you and effect your whole lif..."
If I spent over 15 years in a dream then Yes!!!!!! Non to mention they got married.
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Information technology's the magic of Narnia. It's a place for children, which is why Peter and Susan had to exit and never return. At heart, I believe they still felt like children, therefore making the transition back to the existent world easier.
Two things. . .
One - (spoiler for those who oasis't read the last book) It's true that Aslan told Susan and Peter that they couldn't come back, but Peter did, in the final book. Only Susan left completely, and that was considering she decided to stop believing in Narnia.
Two - it never says if they got married or not. Nosotros know for sure (from "The Equus caballus and His Male child") that at least Susan was offered marriage, simply we know nothing about any of the others. And those who've read "Horse and His Boy" know the upshot.
Michael wrote: "Sara wrote: "Michael wrote: "Regardless it's still very hard to believe,even if information technology feels like a dream globe"
How? How is information technology hard to believe!? Do your very bright dreams still haunt you lot and event y..."
It never says for sure that they got married. And if information technology was similar a dream even though information technology was 15 years information technology wouldn't experience like information technology. A lot of the days would fade immediatly. And as I said earlier they did have trouble adjusting.
Have you ever had an intense dream, where some shadow actively pursues you? Or a fantasy of dancing toward a mysterious place? So you lot wake upwards, heart beating, badly grasping to recapture the shadowy images. In my experience, I've done this and lost where-ever I was and who-e'er I was in that dream. In the book, they come to the infamous lamp and refer to information technology equally a "dream of a dream," attempting to regain a forgotten existence. Passing through the ii realms is much like passing from dream to wakefulness. Go dorsum to The Magician's Nephewand you'll encounter this principle forming.
ITS NARNIA... It KINDA MESSES WITH YOUR Brain...
I remember there is also a feeling of the pevensies being perfect medeival examples, full of award and knightly and somewhat higher up base desires
Ashley-Anne wrote: "I call up there is also a feeling of the pevensies being perfect medeival examples, full of honour and chivalry and somewhat above base desires"
Medieval chivalric literature is hardly "higher up base of operations desires" - encounter, for example, the relationship between Tristan & Isolde! And Lewis, every bit a Professor of Medieval Literature, was well aware of this.
FICTION
I also agree with the dream statements mentioned above.
First I would say, that the story is fiction, it is influenced by magic, & the worlds belong to Aslan(God)-those things don't really take rules... I just take it equally reminder that no matter how much you think you know, you don't know it all-I take those moments all the fourth dimension. Perhaps they needed to learn the lessons that they did in Narnia, but still needed to learn lessons that their globe life would provide to get who they were meant to exist.
Every bit far equally the children, I call back that in many ways they were extremely mature & noble for their historic period. Maybe.. when the kids went back to earth(deadening fourth dimension) they realized how fast Narnia's fast time was. Then then it would seem similar simply a few moments to them, & not an entire lifetime.
A like thought: Earlier the autumn happened in Genesis, Adam & Even lived a life with no shame, guilt, or fear. They has absolute security, purpose, peace, significance, acceptance, identity, completeness... They knew exactly what God thought of them, & exactly how much God loved them. Merely in an instant, what they once had & knew, became a glaring need. How does that happen?? How can you lot cease to know/understand something and then important?
Michael wrote: "Sara wrote: "Michael wrote: "Regardless it's still very hard to believe,fifty-fifty if information technology feels like a dream earth"
How? How is it hard to believe!? Do your very vivid dreams still haunt you and effect y..."
Distressing. They never got married. The English children never did.
I concord with the Narnian Air and the dream theory. They forgot about England in Narnia . . . so why would they NOT forget a lot well-nigh Narnia???
This is all very interesting.
Ok here we become. C S Lewis was a Christian writer. I always thought Narnia was a representation of heaven. Aslan was Christ. All very allegorical. The children were given the rare gift of seeing heaven, just not allowed to stay because they had work to do on globe. Kind of like a near expiry feel where everything is fuzzy after you wake up. Yes, I thought this equally a young reader, but I was raised in a fundamentalist church. All very interesting how anybody comes to their own explanation.
**Spoilers in this Comment**
I exercise non believe Narnia can represent heaven. In the Magician's Nephew book when Digory and Polly are in the woods, Lewis explains that each puddle leads to a carve up universe/earth. I always thought that each earth was just that, a different globe, including England/Earth & Narnia.
At the finish of Last Battle, Aslan leads them to His country, Real Narnia, where they likewise see Real England. Reepicheep & other characters who have passed away are there & it is called Aslan'south Country which is referenced in previous books. I believe that this was intended to be the representation of sky.
Too, there was as well much evil in Narnia to exist heaven, Jadis the witch, Maugrim, Miraz, Tash, the ape named Shift...
I think they were a lot more mature when they came out. We only don't encounter much of their time in the real world, that's all. Edmund and Eustace are good examples.
I think they all were a lot more than mature when they came out, peculiarly Peter and Susan, their conversations were more in depth later Narnia.
When books are written, the story comes from the imagination. You can do anything in a book. This is likewise why a lot of people like to read. They tin escape from reality and be whatever they desire. When C.S Lewis wrote the chronicles of Narnia there was probably never whatever intention of information technology condign a motion-picture show.
To me, the Narnia series isn't nigh fiction or magic. It's virtually faith, either the defective of or convition of the faith of Our God. The Narnia series was written betwixt 1949 and 1954, only 18 years after he converted to Christianity. IMHO, the Narnia series is near our faith in God and His plan for all living creatures. I'chiliad currently in the middle of Dawn Treader and I tin easily relate to any of the Pevensie children. Every bit nosotros become older we sometimes loose sight of our Faith in God and sometimes information technology takes a child-like deed to remind us of His beloved for us and His plan that He'due south conceived for us.
MIND F*CK!!!
Pitiful....
Ryan wrote: "Sorry...."
Really? Perhaps I am not in the all-time of moods today, but was that really necessary?
Rob wrote: "Ryan wrote: "Lamentable...."
Really? Possibly I am non in the best of moods today, only was that really necessary?"
no information technology wasint im distressing
lol
Because Narnia was an alternate reality and when they came dorsum, they hadn't aged a twenty-four hours. That was the magic of Narnia.
**Potential spoilers**(if yous haven't read the rest of the serial)
If you read farther in the serial it explains information technology meliorate. Susan and Peter never really adjusted; they were like adults in the kid forms. They also explain more than in Prince Caspian about the time, how years can get past in Narnia but information technology's mere minutes in our world. Lucy never lost her innocent mode of looking at things. Even as an adult in Narnia she never quit existence child-like. Read further, you'll get some answers.
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